Geez, sorry about that, I got on a roll, and off topic. I wouldnt be all that happy about the antler restriction rules that you have in PA. I know why they did it, but I just have a hard time telling folks that they cant shoot certain animals, straight across the board. I wish, maybe naively, that guys would soon graduate from that "Yep, I got MY buck" mentality and CHOOSE to hold out on a young buck. Let him go, not be told you have to. Theres too many scenarios out there. Just practicing some selective hunting in an area will reap rewards quickly. I dont believe you could ever truly manage a herd that big, with that many hunters participating, and be successful both in deer and in happy hunters. Too many variables.