Well I got to hunt out of the wedge loc for the first time tonight ,man what a nice stand.It was so easy to tote out to the woods ad well as hang.I may have to get another one or two.If any of you are going to buy a new stand for next season,you may want to check one of these out ,it is rock solid,and I was able to sit it this stand for a long while without my usuall fidgeting from getting sore.