Wow, you dug this thread up and blew the dust off of it. Thanks for thinking 'bout me and making the suggestion. I will try them. I tried the thing with a little BP in the barrel before the 777 and found no difference in results. Now I just use straight 777 in the barrel and Goex 4f to prime the pan. How do you like the gun? I love mine. I tinkered with the trigger pull a little by adjusting the little screw and polished and lubed the sear. I also polished the ends of the frizzen journal to make it pivot real freely. I think this gun is one of the best kept secrets out there, really well designed IMO. I know it is designed to shoot pellets but I don't bother with them. Much simpler to dump loose in and be done with it versus dumping a trickle charge of loose in and then dropping pellets. Anyway, good luck with her!