charlie, true that a strict qdm has provisions for that but we can't even get by with this let alone get any stricter. I still think that people will shoot them on thier own regardless of the laws, that's how things are here in pa

Buckmine
with the size of our deer, forks to a side won't save many 1.5, our rules are set to save 50% 1.5 to get them to 2.5

muzzy,
I'm, not saying that ALL mountain areas are bad in food, but some. I've seen giant bucks come out of PA mountain areas, its just that usually they take longer cause they need the extra years to make up for some areas of poorer food.