I guess I'm a little old fashioned, but would anyone like to do a record search on how many buffalo were killed with a .30WCF (.30-30win)? Maybe I'll just line up their tongues and let you walk around the world on them about 15 times.

The magnum craze IS INDEED because the world is evolving, into a bunch of lazy @$$'s...no one takes the time to go out and shoot their rifle, find out where it REALLY hits at different ranges, they want a flat shooting rifle that they can miss by 5-6" with and still get a fast kill.

Whatever happened to putting just enough stank in just the right place?

On a related note, anyone else see the article about the TWO cape buffalo killed by the same shot with a .45-70? Just goes to show you that an "out-dated" round, used properly, can still put on a good show!!