J-Bow I know what you mean about actually seeing large packs. When I see them they are usually alone except during the winter breeding season. There are lots of them in my state and often at night you can hear them howling and banding together for a hunt. Sometimes at camp in the night we hear them carry on for minutes on end and believe me there are more than just a few. In the case that I stumbled on the evidence was pretty overwhelming. They did take the smaller of the 2 deer and the tracks indicated that they had the deer surrounded and caught her in less than 50 yards. The kill site covered more than 30 yards and the final eating spot was another 20 to 40 yards away. Another time while I was in a bow stand at the edge of a field I saw 3 coyotes come out of a swamp and 1 stayed at the edge of the field in a hedge row and the other 2 went into the swamp. About 5 minutes later out came a deer with the 2 yotes right behind her. They ran right by where the other one was hiding and they all took off across the field. I figured the deer must have gotten away because she was in good shape and easily put some distance behind her. Only problem is that the yotes can run that way forever and the deer can’t. Nature can be really cruel.