What is a crud ring? 20%? My Traditions Centennial 2000 is giving me fits.. It is 2” groups at 50 yards and 10” at 100yards. I have tried 2 – 50gr 777 pellets, 2 50 gr Pyro pellets. From some posts here from Cayugad I think I went tp 80gr using pyro 50 & 30 pellets., Same problem. I followed various cleaning and swabbing from posts also. Back to crud ring. When I push the Sabot down the battle there is a several inch 6” or so I think where it is considerably more difficult to push. Is this a crud ring. Howe do you get rid of this. I always have this area no matter how I clean. Also what should the condition of the sabots be after firing. I have been shooting Hornady 240gr sabots. I just bought some shockwaves I am going to try. Another point I rezeroed and cleaned the other day soapy water, bore brush, Traditions bore cleaner, than I ran a Traditions butter patch followed by several dry patches and loaded up for the hunt. The sabot was very very hard to jam down the barrel. Now I was stuck with may be a bad round or a lot more cleaning to get ready. Luckily I didn’t get a shot at a deer. I unloaded at the 100 yard target and miss the whole target. What do ya think. By the way going out of town for a few weeks so I may not get back to ya fore a while. Thanks in advance