hey guys i took a nice 13 pointer on 12 13 04 he went about 75yards. he was not the one i wanted but but i'm very happy i took him he scored 144 3/8. i had the grandad at 90 yards and 74 yards but thats a little out of range. anyway thanks to scentlock and a always dependable muzzy attached to a gold tip coming from a hoyt he's down and all out of fluid. good luck guys lets post some points