thanks, for the coments. I can't wait to get it in and try it out. I also have a lot of setups for a hang on of which right now I have a ameristep which is nice but I am always looking for sometning lighter and quicker to put up. I spike or put steps in many trees so I really just use one stand for areas that a can't use a climber. My hunting buddy said he saw a show that featured the lone wolf hang on and said it looked like the best stand he had seen.