I agree with Alsatian. Doves are not like pheasants. Alot of fly-by shooting trying to knock them out of the sky. Years back we use to hunt doves to take a break from hunting pheasants. They are not at all like pheasants. Pheasants flush. Doves you see them from afar and they fly slowly overhead. You have to know the range of shot, shot pattern of the gun at that distance, and lead them alot less. Skeet is good to practice shots for doves. Just remember to follow through. I use to use #8 2 3/4" game loads with fixed Mod choke in 20 ga.