if you can find a loggy bayou pick up one of those. it really is a different design from all the others. im sure if they are still in buisness. but i love mine. it climbs like all the others, ole man, summit.....but once you get to where you want to be in the tree, there is a seat that folds up and locks in place by springloaded buttons. the top of the seat is then strapped to the tree with a really strong cam lock. once your strapped in, it is essesntially a hang on stand...you can lean in all different directions, perch yourself in a less than favorable tree....or just use it as a regular hang on stand. it is really versitile and durable, my father has had his for 15 years with no problem....last week in fact he converted to the cam lock system that is on my newer one. if the platform was slightly larger you could do cartwheels in it b/c it is so sturdy. i have always wondered why no other stands are made like the loggys. sometimes when i am hunting from the ground i will leave the climbing aid at home and hang it a foot off the ground so i have a comfortable seat+keep my scent off the ground. oh, it is super compact on your back and light too. hope that helps
Bob