Just came back from a 4 day trip up north and let me tell you....it was brutal[:@] Between 4 of us we saw about 5 bucks total! and only a handful of does in which not one was being followed by any bucks. 4 guys-4 days=1 deer(spiker), and I got him the last 5 minutes of shooting time as we were heading out. It was very warm and there was 1/4" of freesh snow on the ground so we couldn't pattern if we tried. The only buck I had a chance out came out directly to my left as I had my gun pointed down a cutline. He walked within 10 yd's of me and I couldn't turn the little bit to squeeze off a shot[:@][:@] It was so frustrating but exciting, as soon as he caught my scent he took off and I tried the running shot at 15yds but missed! Man what a year, passed up so many w.t.'s early with the bow, only to not see any during "prime time". Like ya said skeeter it's been an interesting ride this year. Oh well at least the little one I got will taste good but there sure isn't much meat this year[] JDinAB