I couldn't agree more. Just the other day, Nov 28th, at about 8:00 am my permanent tree stand fell out from underneath me. Thankfully I was wearing my safety harness and I can live to walk again. A friend and I build these treestand and we have had an engineer evaluate them for strength, etc.. The engineer said they would hold around 3000 lbs. Yes, we overbuild everthing, but the one thing you can't account for is tree movement. While I was dangling from the tree I investigated the holes where the lag bolts were and it looked as if the holes had rotted from around the lag. Needless to say, we will be changing some of our treestands this next year. On a similar note, I have been looking for a climber, any recomendations? What about API's telescoping ladder stand?

Good day and Hunt Safe