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if nothing else this seems like a prime oppurtinity to put a dog on birds, and or take a youth out hunting. if you read some of these posts, people make it sound like planted birds shamefull. i personally find them a great way to get a dog on birds and build their confidence. not everybody, actually very few people live in a place where they can train dogs with wild birds. a lot of people make it sound like a person goes out and plants the birds and 10 minutes later you have them all shot. this is not the case, in fact most people are not able to find all the birds that are planted for them and if they do it is not in 10 minutes and most likely it is left over birds from previous hunts, this is not to say that some preserves have better cover and flyers than others but the fact remains that the birds do run up to you and jump in the back of your vest. it is undebatable that wild birds are not the same as pen raised birds unless left in the field for a period of time. in fact i would bet you would surprised at the number of released birds that you find on so called hunting lodges in south dakota, many of them release birds on their property routinly to keep up the stock and appearance of a wild bird population. they have way too many people convinced that all these thousands of birds are wild birds and when they are hunting them they can't tell the difference. these released birds are also a good way to introduce youth and women hunters to the sport. the more people we can get involved in hunting the better off we the hunters are, there are way too many people trying to take away what is left of the hunting now and the way some people talk about what a slaughter or unethical hunting these preserves are we all need to be looking at this. try one for yourself, make sure they have suittable cover and good birds, ask for recomendations and if you find the right one it very well could change your mind.