I've got Knutson on order - should be here today - and I'll definately check out those other pubs. What are your thoughts on that video I see advertised on pointinglabs.com?

Does your dog point grouse often and when he does, from what range does he pick them up from? Where I hunt grouse it's so thick you can barely get the gun up and it would be neat to try a dog in that stuff.

Fritz