best thing i can tell ya is SCOUT .... ya cant call birds if they arent there .... show me the best caller callin birds in the middle of the city and ill laugh .... show me the worst caller in the world in a refuge and ill laugh...... what im sayin is .... ya can be the worst caller there is and still call birds if ya where they wanna be .... and ya can be the best caller in the world and not call em where they dont wanna be .... just go out there and find the birds .... thats the main thing with waterfowl ...... let me know how ya do and take pix