well guys, its just not looking good at all. I have no stand that is seeing any daytime movement. I did find alot of sign in an area that holds big bucks.....BUT I ended up walking right in front of my friends trial cam!! So I had to get outta there so I didnt mess any of his setup up. He is hunting in another area tho...so maybe I can sweet talk him into letting me hunt it. Cross your fingers for me. Hopefully I can get in there and these bucks not be nocturnal and come thru while I'm there. Maybe I'll be able to help the team I dont know. I'm just getting very discouraged.