I took one my first year beginners luck I guess. Years since has been hit or miss but the kill isn't the reason I turkey hunt. Me and my buddy had 5 long beards in front of us this year at 20 yards and neither of us would shoot because we were arguing over who was gonna shoot first. I told him to shoot he said no you shoot. In the end we both laid our guns down and watched em strut, spit and drum. Hunts like those are what it is all about!!!!!!!