oh jeez, i jsut read all of what you guys replied, and i read what i wrote the first time and second time, obviously i am not really into english much, sorry for the way i said it, sounds like i actually had the gun on my hip, you can tell you dont live where i do, everyone here woulda understood but i guess i didnt really do a good job describing it, up here aiming from the hip means like you aim, but you dont really aim it has to be a quick shot or your not gonna get the shot, you have to make weird adjustments, it isnt like i had the gun on my hip pullin the trigger, man i dont evne know why i am trying to explain this... but i had my gun to my shoulder and i aimed. think what you want, sayin hunters like me give the sport a bad name, it is the youth of today that you are passing the tradition on to, if you want to bash hunters and not tell them right from wrong without full detail on what even happened go ahead and do that, you can say in your youth if you hunted you didnt do something stupid, you have to remeber to be old and wise you first have to be young and stupid. (i thought it was probably like boone and crocket but my friend had seen him and said he would be like lower 150's) just wanted to clear that up. but if you want to keep bashin the shot keep on doing it, because what is done is done, oh and i dont think we killed him either, the next morning we were back out and we thought we seen the big buck walking up a draw about 1/2 mile out.