Let me add one more thing, I love shooting wood, and Carbon, but right now, I really don't have the room here were I live right now to stain wood arrows, so I need to go a simpler way. and the pre stained arrows I will not ever buy again, to many variences in weight even for me.[:@] So I am going to shoot carbon and if i go with the V-maxx the cost is pretty much the same as if I bought the regular shafts with weight tubes.