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Old 10-20-2004 | 11:20 AM
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Default RE: Bore Butter causes rust??

Bore Butter, Natural Lube 1000 or Wonder Lube is all the same thing. I used to be a Bore Butter user all the time. I had two different rifles rust using it, and if anyone is fussy when it comes to cleaning their rifles, it is me. I was lucky I shoot so often and that I noticed it right away and it was only surface rust and some J.B. Bore Paste and a brass brush took it out. I was so shocked when I ran a patch down my Bore Butter Seasoned Barrel and it came back out rust brown. Talk about a photo oppertunity for surprised look on their face....

Also the accuracy in my T/C Renegade got so terrible, I no longer trusted the rifle. I missed a shot (during our deer season) I could have made with a different rifle and my eyes closed, and ended up wounding a nice little buck. Three of us did manage to walk the critter down, and I admit the .54 caliber did enough damage it finally layed down, but it was a long walk and a longer drag out.....

I then did a boiling soap water bath with the rifle and some oven mitts. Then I plugged the barrel and filled it with M.A.P. and after it sat for 30 minutes I bore brushed the devil out of it. After that I gave it another boiling water bath and then ran solvent patches through it until they came out white, not rust colored or gray, but white. My testing showed the accuracy was back to normal.

When I went back to the rifle's original load the next day I shot a nice doe at over 60 yards as she walked past the stand. The roundball hit right where it was supposed to. That was the last time I ever tried to season a barrel.

The problem with a sidelock is there is really no way to be 100% certain you have the barrel and breech clean. How many times have you cleaned your rifle, then later, ran a solvent patch or a follow up oil patch down the barrel for one reason or another and it came up brown with rust.

The difference between using the bore butter and a petrolium based solvent clean barrel is that you might not have to swab the bore as often using bore butter. They claim in their add that you do not have to swab the bore between shots, well you will still have to if the projectile gets too hard to seat properly. Some people have claimed that they shot 30 times in a row without swabbing. I guess I just do not trust the stuff anymore as something to prevent rust from forming.

I am not telling anyone not to use bore butter. If you have good luck with it then by all means use it. All I am saying is I had a bad experience using it more then once. For that reason I use Birchwood Casey Bore Scrubber, Butch's Bore Shine, M.A.P. and hot water to clean the bores of my rifles. After I am all done I protect them with a patch of Birchwood Casey Sheath or REM OIL, but I like the Birchwood Casey the best. Nice smell too...

Use what you trust and feel comfortable with. If you are a bore butter user, how often do you brush the bore to remove the buildup of the stuff? As I said in the other post, I season my fry pan not my rifle barrel. I have an old barrel around here that I no longer shoot. I think I will conduct an experiment with bore butter..... sounds like an interesting test...
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