I hit the range today, these loads were awesome. very mild recoil for a 357 magnum and grouped very nicely held 5 shots in a 3 inch circle at 15 yards consistantly. Next weekend I am gonna run them through a chronograph to see what kind of velocity they are hitting from my 4 inch barrel. the only down side to them is in the indoor range i was shooting at the lighting is very dim and the muzzle flash was almost blinding.