RE: i hate climbers
Sorry about your previous experience with climbers. Like MT, I purchased an API (now owned by BassPro) and love my Extreme Magnum. Weighs about 23 lbs (aluminum) and is well thought out. I attached a scabbard and climb up the tree, rifle attached (unloaded of course). For years, talked myself out of it, but I am glad I use one now.
I do have several ladder stand including a two man ladder stand. I like them as well, but to get into the thickest brush, the climber beats hauling the heavy ladder stands around. Good luck this season.