I'll contact you next time I'm up, PAJack. I've seen about 6 different bucks up there (besides this one) so far this year. My dad saw two 8-points that would go an easy 130" a few weeks ago. Last year we had a 10 pointer on top of the mountain with a good 24" spread. The word is that nobody got him. Do you think there is enough hunting pressure up there that ARs make a huge difference? Between Ganoga Lake Association, Frost Hollow, Painter Den and Ricketts Glen, the deer get a lot of protection. Plus, SGL 13 is so immense that it could never be over utilized. I think we've been having bucks die of old age on that mountain all along. The only problem is finding them. It's a vast area.