Canuck - nice tutorial ... for what its worth, I converted from the saw to a mini-hatchet from Gerber. I've found that a couple of quick chops and the pelvis is cracked and split, and I think there's less chance of busting the bladder ..... which by the way, I have drained into my Gatorade bottle on several occasions - just seems to make "sents" to have fresh wee-wee instead of the bottled stuff.