Well I have just one thing to say. Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like the basis for this discussion is based on the biases different types of hunters--bow vs. gun. I think the originator of the discussion was trying to upset rifle hunters, because bow hunting is apparently better than other forms. Why stop there, we could say that bow hunting is a weak form of hunting, and if you are a true hunter you would use a spear. Why use any mechanical devices other than the human body. Shooting from 50 yards, try 20 ft. Then I could say, Must be nice...... all you bow hunters. Good hunting, and I'm outta here.