I can do well with the primary pin. But the way the secondary pin sits on a Savage it is directly in front of the post that hold the primary AND it is a piece of fiber optic with the end burnt into a small blob. This covers up my circles on my target. So I tried just aiming for 20 and letting the arrows fall below, but it wasn't any good either.

You right about the hunting bow part, that's why I use a pendulum. I'm just trying to make sure if a 30 yard shot on a pig presents itself my BH tipped arrow will land true.

I know I'll get this figured out before season, I just hate sitting here helpless when I could be tweaking.