Well guys, this is real clear. It appears Jason, Livbucks and myself all started our deer hunting careers in the ANF. We've all stated that the deer herd numbers are down there but we all conceded that thats the way it has to be. We also all seem to be able to continue to kill both quantity and quality there as well as in the more productive southwest.
Sounds like its a matter of being adaptable to me.
Here's the difference as I see it
Alt is going to manage for the benefit of the resource first. Period. He realizes that hunters are needed in his plan and those who can adapt will benefit as well.
Some hunters think that deer management should be run for the benefit of quantity minded hunters only. Chicory, for example says:
Its a smaller herd with less hunters taking home buck. No one I have talked with stopped me in mid sentence and said "oh, but I'm excited about seeing less and having our camp take less".
And as for this little pearl:
So in summary, you are just trying to make a villan out of a concerned sportsmans group. How low is that? to try and make it sound like only one group is concerned? Where I come from we equate that Dan Rather-esqe behavior with the shallow end of the hunting community gene pool.
Oh, and I'm the name caller here?
If you wish to see Rather-esque behavior, the unified group can provide all you want. If they fall short, simply read some of DD's "cyphering" on these pages!
What we have here is a respected scientist supported by people who realize that the hunting in their favorite areas had to change for the good of the resource opposed by a small vocal crowd of "good ol boys" who dont want their traditions messed with and would rather fight passionately to cling to the past.
Who's on the shallow end of the gene pool again?