Be patient with yourself, hunting them in the fall is somewhat different in the spring. Location, location, location is the name of the game. Find where they are and your golden. Some say to try to break up the flock in the fall, but if you can get that close to break them up, why not just shoot them. Head to toe camo is a must but beware of archers in your area, don't want to bust their hunt up. Have fun and learn how, where , what and why, and you will be on your way. Best wishes.