Thanks everyone for the info. Fortunately I haven't gave White any money just the dealer who is a relative of mine so I want have any problems getting my money back. Its really a shame though, they did have a great product as I have shot and seen people shoot alot of the white products since they opened business in the early 90's and I must say that not one of them as been a bad shooter and thats shooting about 27 different guns of theirs. I'll give them about another month and if they don't have it by then I'll just cancel my order and get me a sako 75 hunter in 7mm-08 (been wanting one of those for a while anyways). Again, thanks for the info and hopefully I'll be looking at my new muzzleloader within a month.