I wish they would just hurry up and say they are out of business. I have been waiting for 9 months on one of their 45 cal Odysseys and still don't have it. A friend of mine talked to a rep about month ago and said he was doubtful about us getting any 45's cause they can't get the barrels. I think what has happened is that when White first went bankrupt then changed to spitfire MTI, then back to white they had to pick up the bills from the first bankrupcy since they used that name. He never really said why he can't get the barrels or if he ever will. I think Whites are near the top of the line but if they want to beat around the bush then I'll take my money and get me a 3rd gonic. Its a shame to the Odyssey, IMO, is the prettiest muzzleloader ever built. Here's a pic of it .

http://whiterifles.com/store/moreinf...TOKEN=94630492

Well if anybody hears anything let me know so I can go ahead and get my money back from the dealer or just let him hold on to it until until the gun arrives.