You never know. I have to email days in advance to hunt this place. I also have to sign a release in case anything happens, I won't sue. He's got plenty of land and is over run by deer. This was the place I had 60+ deer go by me on my last hunt. He just doesn't want people shooting each other I guess. As far as I know I'm the only one except for his brother in law. He apparently only wants to hunt there when they are driving the park next door. I don't think he even went there last year. Oh well his lost. I just hope I have time to get up there and get some pics to share. It really is a treat to see the amount and the quality of the deer.