dad will like the 8mm loaded up....he found some diffrent loads and said they are alot hotter then what hes been finding....i think he got european stuff or something and it was hotter....said it shot higher and he could feel the diffrence...i told him aobut how if i reload for him he could get alot more performance from it and better hunting loads....who knows what the military stuff will do when it hits a deer....its not too consistant id be willing to bet...so besides myself i can help dad.....he loves his mausers....(i am the original mauser in the house....i bought my sporterized 98k before he bought his military mausers) and i can outshot his any day....but a leupold and a nicely designed stock rather then the open military sites and wierd stock he shotos lol......cant wait....thanx alot