Maybe I was misunderstood. The original stock is still on the gun. It came with this overly long metal adjustable butt plate thing that is adjustable for drop and left and right. I removed that as it was too long. I took it to a professional gun maker/toolman/designer/craftsman who was reportedly involved originally came up with the screw in chokes. Anyway, he cut enough off the stock to make the pull length right for me. It's not like he butchered the stock or anything. My uncle was a long dude. Someone in the Syracuse, NY Police Dept had this gun made to fit him as a gift. He did shoot some trap with it. There are no placs or anything on it to state that(which is good I think) but that's a little of the history. It is the Monte Carlo stock. It's not the cheap ribbed forearms you see on some of the older model 12s I've seen before.