4 inch K-Fram size 357 mag. 38 Special +P+ 158 grain lead hollow point. SECOND CHOICE 1911 45 acp OR THE NEW 45 Glock. I have carried about everything at one time or another but I keep comming back to the 4 inch 357 Mag. Confidence I quess. 200 grain Hollow points in the 45 for summer carry. 230 JRN for winter carry.