Thanks guys[8D] Lots of good info coming in and the wheels are starting to turn I didn't think of shooting it off a separate string[&:] that makes a lot of sence and will prevent going to the dentist too often[:@]. I'm looking in the Lancaster Archery catalog as I read this I'd really like to get aggressive on my target panic but I'll be hunting very soon so I'll probably get one just to "play" with a separate string. Thanks!