Elkampmaster-- Thanks for the info. Pretty detailed, I may have to print it out and read it a little more carefully next to a diagram of the skeletal and mussle structures of deer and elk. Actually, the "Another place where no one I’ve seen is real specific on the “how to do it” is how cut out over to and locate the hip socket without “butchering” the hind quarter." Was another question that I had after I posted my last question, as I went back to the site, and watched the slide show again. Then the question kinda popped into my head of exactly how to locate the hip socket without butchering the animal and destroying as little meat as possible. It would be cool if you could elaborate on that, again thanks for the previous response to my question.

P.S.-- yes this would be more of an educational value for (hopefully) elk hunting next year, as I have 2 bonus points for cow elk now, and the area that I apply for has a large wilderness area that holds a lot of elk and does not get very much hunting pressure, so I could get back away from the other hunters if rifle hunting, but if I draw a ML tag, not much to worry about with only 4 tags in the ML hunt.