Coug,

I went over to the website and really went through thier catalog zooming in on their pics of the clothing.

It looks to me like they are using a different manufacturer these days..either that or have just upgraded all the belts, zippers, styles, etc.

I may grab some of the Xtreme pattern in fleece to see how they have improved. They have 3a 0 day return policy as long as the tags are still on.