BB, The last few days , I spent a little time testing out some different ideas on decoys, it seems that it really didn't work again. I'm not a big decoy fan and only seem to use the odd setup at the start of the season, but this year I seen a problem at the start aswell. Believe me I'm part of the group, but I think its because of the way I hunt aswell. Every year I seem to test out thoughts just looking for that added gain, and no better time then while you can have a gun in your hand ...BT