Jepcho, I hunted 1st and 4th. My 1st season was a bust lots of action... just not from Toms. I finally filled my 4th season tag last Thursday. All and all it has been one of my more frustrating seasons. I work with, and know quite a few hunters and everyone agrees the birds seemed sort of odd this spring. The hens really dictated the day more than in years past... just an opinion. There never seemed to be that "magical" time when the Toms were without hens, usually that 10 to 2 time frame. Last Thursday I hunted the evening. I pulled in around 6:00, and there were 2 toms at each end of the farm strutting with hens. But the year ended good, and it will give me something to think about until deer season. Where do you do most of your hunting? I mainly hunt east central, with a yearly trek up to northeat Iowa for the first weekend of 4th season. My legs could'nt take those hills for an entire turkey season!