It's never going to happen though, for one because there's is no rifle season where I live and two because I don't think my Shih Tzu would appreciate a gun going off in the house and momma doesn't like it when someone scares her baby

I did however get to watch a 130 (high 130s) class eight point breed a doe in the front yard! Not everyone can say they have seen that especially not in their front yard But I understood your point exactly I prefer the "must be present to win" just for smarta$$es like me