I too hate gun stores - at least for the most part. It's not because of the product they sell, that I like, but because of the arrogance and attitude displayed by most clerks on that side of the counter. In my experience in most cases getting help or information beyond the bare minimum on a particular item or product is like pulling teeth. However. they are quite skilled at communicating an unwillingness to say or do anything beyond the bare minimum. Not all but most. The exception is a rare breed and hard to find. I know of two who are the exception and that's where I do my shopping. gg.