Thanks for the clarification on that Arthur. It sounds like we agree on alot more than I had originally thought in terms of what to do when and how. At first it sounded to me like you had totally discounted paper as a tuning tool. The original audience played into that no doubt. I've gone through alot of that paper frustration you talk about and at the same feel like it put me on to a set up that's better than I've ever had. Of course, that took alot of trial and error and knowing when to discount tears based on how the shot and follow through felt.

You still there drthunder? Sorry for hijacking your post.....[&:]