becareful on some of those warmer winter days and the 'waterproof' materials....some of it gets pretty dang loud in the colder climates (ie saddle cloth). I prefer my ASAT camo in polar fleece. So far it has worked great from Mn to Missouri and Alaska! My preditor also is fine camo but its a shame I only have one set of woolens. Its kind of tough to find a perfect layer for all hunt situations where layering is more important. Find a camo you like and get a rain outfit you like...thats what I would do, take them both. Usually I have a small back pack on or a big fanney pack to carry a light rain jacket....works for me anyways. Up here I have a frame pack on with the essentails, water purifier, long undies, change or two of socks, first aid kit, extra food, space blanket, if I get really crazy the army issued poncho with the poncho liner makes a great makeshift bivy using the space blank as an inbetween or on the outside to prevent tears in your poncho, and of course my rain jacket. I am looking into helle hansons equipment and the mt50. A couple of the local guides (make there sole living guiding hunters and fisher folks) dont recommend the mt50 for use up here, when your life depends on staying dry they all have shunned it saying there clients usually end up wet!