I am planning on purchasing another new bowtech in the next couple of months.I love the new Justice vft and after convincing my wife I really need another backup bow since I sold my jennings buckmaster I really want one of those speedburners.I have not even held the extreme yet because my dealer has not got one in stock yet but he told me it was about like the patriot with a little shorter BH.I shoot a 27" draw lenghth and 70lbs on the Justice I figured I would get the extreme with 60lb limbs due to the tougher draw on the infinity cam.I drew back a patriot he had set on 65lbs and it felt great!Does anyone shoot an extreme with a 27" drawlength and 60lbs.Are they as smooth as the patriot and what kind of speed can I expect out of an extreme with this drawlength with a 350 to 415 grain arrow?Hope my dealer gets one in soon but if not I may have to go on and order one or would I be better off with the patriot.The main reason I ask is at my dealer the patriot is $100 more than the extreme the same price difference as the liberty and justice and to me I could not see that much difference in the liberty and my justice.Thanks !