Seems Tree Climber has had problems with the 835. Mossberg did have some quality problems with the 835 a while back but they seem to be fine now. I have one of the first ones they put out and have never had a problem with it. I also have a newer one that my wife got me a couple of seasons ago and it's been fine too. I don't think you'll be disappointed with the 835. I've shot some awsome patterns with mine and they've taken a bunch of gobblers in the last several years.