RE: seeding rates
LunchBucket
One time and only one time, I top seeded red clover on an existing fesque hay field to improve my hay quality. It came up so thick that it actually killed some of the fescue. I would have never believed this to be true, if I hadn't seen it myself. Of course two years later and no additional seedings, the fescue was the dominant species again. That case must have been one of the few instances where all the conditions favored the clover.