tomahog it might be good in your gun but not in others. As you, I have been in the business for several years and have tried every tube coming and going and by far the best I have shot in my beretta a390 is the kicks .655 with winchester 3" #5 HV's at 50 yards I can put 68 pellets in the head and neck and got the targets to prove it. With the .660 hastings comp-n-choke I can put 46 pellets in the head and neck with the same load. I do know that the Kicks tubes shoot better than most in benelli and berettas. But like you said, this is just an opinion. Good luck hunting and be safe.