i did not even think about acorn trees. thanx for that. as far as the fence goes. about where that red line is in the woods there was a fence. there isnt much left right now though. maybe 20 yards and then it goes down for about 40 yards and comes back up again. wat were u thinking if there was a fence that was up? i am from peoria county and live about 15 minutes from fulton county. how about u. thanx again for the help