I agree with you Wibucksniper. I hunt 22&22A and see any where between 8 to 23 does at once in alfalfa field and maybe ONE buck.Land owner and surronding owners won't shoot does and I catch heck for shooting one but they will shoot anything with antlers.Been told to find different place to hunt. plain sucks when we can't get along,people worry more about them selves than overall situation